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bj4fun
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Rivers Casino and Resort in Schenectady, NY is one of the new New York State casinos that opened on February 8, 2017 to some pretty dismal reviews. I had not been so reserved judgement. However, that changed today after we decided to take the 1 1/2 hour drive to check it out.
We arrived just after noon and left at 1:30 - I suppose I could stop the review right there but here are the details.
This place is SMALL! Its listed as 50,000 Sq Ft, but it sure looks smaller than that. We are used to Atlantic City, PA and CT casinos all of which dwarf this place. It is really just a rectangle where you can easily see from one side to the other at all times. They managed to squeeze 67 table games into this space with plenty of BJ, Craps, Roulette, Pai Gow, and an assortment of carnival games. A variety of slot machines and video poker were also available as well as a poker room. The entire casino is non-smoking (didn't Revel try that???).
We headed first to get our players cards and got $10 free play for signing up. The processes was quick and easy with a very polite Terrin taking care of me quite efficiently. He pointed out that the card gets us 5% off at the marketplace restaurants (higher at higher levels) so we headed over to FLIPT for lunch. We both ordered single burgers with fries (and a 'free' soda). This was about $23 less 1.10 5% discount for about $22. The burgers and fries were just ok - but not as good as say 5 Guys or Shake Shack. So we thought $22 is quite pricey for what we got.
After lunch I turned my $10 is free play to $12.50 and then I headed to the tables while my wife stayed at the slots. The BJ by NY state law is 3:2 (though double and single deck can be 6:5). Here the tables were 8 decks - H17 - split to 3 hands - double after split - surrender is allowed. So pretty good rules. Tables are a mix of CSMs and Auto shufflers out of a shoe. In the center of the casino was a pit of $15 tables which were all completely full. I was about to resign myself to some $25 BJ (a bit steep for my bankroll) but as I walked down toward them, there was a $10 table with an auto shuffler with a couple empty seats - go figure. After I buy in the old guy next to me whispers, 'those kids are new' pointing to a couple of much younger men at the table. They certainly were 'new' and in desperate need of a basic strategy card, but they were nice enough.
The dealer was quite good, calling out totals (correctly), always wishing everyone luck on an A, paying off the lucky ladies side bets (not for me, thanks) efficiently and even helping 'those kids' when they tried to hit 15 against a 5. The dealer was quite cold through the first shoe busting regularly as I slowly grew my stack. Just at the shuffle the relief dealer came in and she too was good and a bit faster than the original dealer. Before this shoe was over, my wife came over and sat down next to me (yes still an empty seat at the $10 table). She had lost as much as she wanted to lose (that was pretty quick). After another hand or so, I was up $100 so figured we'd call it a day. So I played less than 2 shoes of BJ. I wonder if this minimal amount of play will generate any mailings.
A quick glance at the craps tables looked like they were mostly $15 but I hope there was some less expensive tables around. And then a line at the cashier. The 'line' was really just in the walkway around the outside of the rectangle. So people were walking through the line. Not very well laid out for a newly designed casino. Just 2 windows were open so there were about 4 people waiting to cash out. I've never quite seen it set up like this before. And after getting my money I felt quite exposed since I was immediately in the walkway.
The casino was bright and clean (new). The food seemed over priced. The selection of slots seemed minimal (according to my wife). The table games seemed fine to me. The hotel is not yet opened, so calling this a resort seems to be presumptuous. There was plenty of free surface parking as well as a free parking garage. Would I go back? Sure, if I was in the Albany area with some free time I would go back. Would we take the 1 1/2 hour drive each way again just to go here, no! I have plenty of other better options in the 2-3 hour range. Getting from I 890 to the casino brings you through some pretty run-down areas of Schenectady but once you get to the property its bright and new.
My net on this one - don't go out of your way to go here.

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The entire casino is non-smoking
My net on this one - don't go out of your way to go here.


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Thanks for The review. I have to go to Albany once a year. I usually have a free night before my meetings in the morning. A non-smoking casino that has Pai Gow seems attractive to me! I may stop by.
mcallister3200
I believe the non Indian casinos with table games may have to be non smoking, Del Lago was also. I think this is a trend in newer states that allow non Indian gaming (ohio comes to mind), where reasonable health concerns that apply to most other businesses are taken into account, the 'but it's a casino' excuse not taking hold.
mrsuit31

I believe the non Indian casinos with table games may have to be non smoking, Del Lago was also. I think this is a trend in newer states that allow non Indian gaming (ohio comes to mind), where reasonable health concerns that apply to most other businesses are taken into account, the 'but it's a casino' excuse not taking hold.


I believe the NYS Clean Indoor Air Act of 2003 is the reason smoking indoors isn't allowed anywhere in the state where people work and are required to be..
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bj4fun

I believe the NYS Clean Indoor Air Act of 2003 is the reason smoking indoors isn't allowed anywhere in the state where people work and are required to be..


I've been a NY resident all my life so I certainly should have realized this was probably due to NYS laws! Thanks for pointing that out.
bj4fun

Thanks for The review. I have to go to Albany once a year. I usually have a free night before my meetings in the morning. A non-smoking casino that has Pai Gow seems attractive to me! I may stop by.


Yes, if you are already in the area, have some free time and you are looking for table games I think this would be a good choice. While I'm not a slot expert, my wife was not at all pleased with the selection.
mrsuit31

I've been a NY resident all my life so I certainly should have realized this was probably due to NYS laws! Thanks for pointing that out.

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Haha, no worries. Fellow NYer here..
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bj4fun
So I had to laugh when I got an e-mail from Rivers today.. Granted I only played about 45 minutes at $20 a hand..
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Period : February 1st - July 31st, 2017
Rush Rewards # : xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Rush Rewards Tier : Rush
Tier Points Balance : 26
Points Balance : 26
Points can be redeemed for comps at any dining outlet or
Free Slot Play at any slot machine.
1500 points = $5 Free Slot Play
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So I'd have to play at this rate for about 20 hours to receive $5 slot play? Geez thanks! Again, I understand if I had played longer I may have earned more points per hour (or maybe not). However, if they were really trying to get me to come back, this didn't help!
CrapsForever
Playing Craps today in Rivers Casino in Chicago..and getting KILLED..Every decision I make is wrong..I bet the Pass Line, 7'outs all day. I bet the Don'ts..Points are hitting. I walk away from a COLD table..by the time I get back the table is PACKED and I can't get back on to play because the shooter is on a MONSTER roll.
There's a 'WHALE' with the entire table reserved to himself at a Craps table behind me. He is betting $1,000 Pass Line, with anywhere from $20,000 - $50,000 Odds (Casino has 100X Odds) and making Place Bets of $10,000 and better. He has bets totaling over $150,000 on the table the couple times that I glanced over at him. I am on my craps table losing my SHIRT; a few players at my craps table are watching the Whale throwing the Dice; he is losing more than $100,000 every few minutes. I overheard one of the Casino employees saying the player is down $500,000 TODAY and apparently is a regular at the Casino and always bets big and loses most of the time.
A few minutes later..Pit Boss walks over to my Craps table and tells one of the players on my table who is casually watching the Whale throwing the Dice every few seconds that the 'Whale' does not like anybody watching him throw the dice and if the Craps player watches him again.he'll be kicked out of the Casino.
TableI have seen it all!!!!!
Craps is the most 'Jekyll and Hyde' casino game ever invented!
Wizard
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That would be illegal in Nevada.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
Ibeatyouraces
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CrapsForever
The thing that I don't understand is the player who was threatened to be kicked out was on my Craps table playing; he was simply glancing over at the other table with the Whale playing. I have played Craps for over 12 years and I have NEVER seen that much money on the table ($150,000+) at one time. It was quite a scene.. seeing all those different color chips on the table in play. Why wouldn't a regular player be interested in just taking a quick look? I know I am a bit eccentric with my 'Craps Etiquette' rules but to blame your losses on a Craps table because somebody is watching you is a bit extreme!
I was feeling bad for the 'Whale' until the Pit Boss threatened the Craps player on my table. I understand that 'money talks' but if the Whale was that concerned about people watching him..they should have put curtains around the Craps table. Apparently Rivers Casino Chicago does not have a Craps table in their High Limit area or he would have been playing there.

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Craps is the most 'Jekyll and Hyde' casino game ever invented!
teddys
I saw this at the Mirage. A guy was betting big, and I stopped by to watch. I lingered for a little bit, and then he motioned to the to the pit boss and nodded his head in my direction. The pit boss came over to me, but I scurried away before he could get near me.
How much does it take to get a private craps table in the high limit room? If these people don't want attention, why are you playing HUGE MONEY in the MIDDLE OF A CROWDED CASINO?
'Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe.' -Rig Veda 10.34.4

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buzzpaff
' I was feeling bad for the 'Whale'
I used to feel that way until I figured out that often it is less tan a day's pay for the whale.
After a certain point, money is meaningless. It ceases to be the goal. The game is what counts.
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buzzpaff

That would be illegal in Nevada.

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Never thought I would be saying this to the man behind the curtain , But are you sure Mike ?Rivers
Definition Of Trespass Under Nevada Law
The crime of trespass does not require breaking and entering or any other type of home or property invasion. You can be charged with criminal trespass in Las Vegas for choosing to stay in a casino when a security guard tells you to leave. In many cases the security guard has no basis to ask someone to leave, so they figure “to hell with this idiot” and they stay. It comes as a surprise to many that this can result in criminal charges and the need for legal representation.
According to Nevada law-NRS 207.200-trespass occurs in the following two circumstances:
If you go onto another’s property in order to annoy the people there or to commit a crime there, OR
If you stay on another’s property after you’ve been ordered to leave.
Keyser

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That would be illegal in Nevada.


No it wouldn't. They can kick you out if they don't like the color of your shoes. They can ban you if they choose, without providing you with a reason. And if you return, they can have you arrested.

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ahiromu
To be completely honest, if I had the ability to throw away a million dollars every weekend I'd want my craps game to go however the hell I like.
If I wanted midgets to dress up as oompa loompas as my dealers, I should be able to get that.
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midwestgb

Playing Craps today in Rivers Casino in Chicago..and getting KILLED..Every decision I make is wrong..I bet the Pass Line, 7'outs all day. I bet the Don'ts..Points are hitting. I walk away from a COLD table..by the time I get back the table is PACKED and I can't get back on to play because the shooter is on a MONSTER roll.
There's a 'WHALE' with the entire table reserved to himself at a Craps table behind me. He is betting $1,000 Pass Line, with anywhere from $20,000 - $50,000 Odds (Casino has 100X Odds) and making Place Bets of $10,000 and better. He has bets totaling over $150,000 on the table the couple times that I glanced over at him. I am on my craps table losing my SHIRT; a few players at my craps table are watching the Whale throwing the Dice; he is losing more than $100,000 every few minutes. I overheard one of the Casino employees saying the player is down $500,000 TODAY and apparently is a regular at the Casino and always bets big and loses most of the time.
A few minutes later..Pit Boss walks over to my Craps table and tells one of the players on my table who is casually watching the Whale throwing the Dice every few seconds that the 'Whale' does not like anybody watching him throw the dice and if the Craps player watches him again.he'll be kicked out of the Casino.
I have seen it all!!!!!


Probably the same guy I saw playing craps alone at Rivers last month. Was his wingman at the table without chips to keep him company?
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